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accountability so that we can deal with people uploading works which
are not theirs to license, and we also need to keep our project scope
in mind.

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I defer to our development team on how much more work that would entail. We now only have a few hours per week allocated to Media Viewer feature development, so we’re leaning towards the most expedient solutions right now.

Even if we start with just a class name right now (e.g. '.no-viewer'), that name that could eventually be re-used when we have time to make it part of the file embedding syntax, for consistency purposes.

BTW, I like ’no-viewer’ because it’s short and very explicit — and even if it’s loosely tied to the Media Viewer, it seems open-ended enough to be used by other apps in the future.

-f

On May 12, 2014, at 2:54 PM, bawolff <bawolff+wn at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On May 12, 2014 4:32 PM, "Fabrice Florin" <fflorin at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We would appreciate your help to come up with a class name that community members can use to exclude an image from Media Viewer or related tools.
> >
> > Too many small files (like icons, flags, etc.) appear in Media Viewer for some articles, even though they are unrelated to the topic of the article. Other image files also need to be excluded, because they are not suitable for Media Viewer (such as maps using weird CSS/JS tricks, or images which use a clipping template).
> >
> > Many community members have reported this issue, which delivers an unpleasant browsing experience for users who only want to view images that are relevant for the article they are reading (and which are supported by Media Viewer).
> >
> > We agree that this is an important issue. The most practical way to address it would require editors to add a .metadata class to the images they don’t want to show on a page, as proposed here:
> >
> > https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/511
> >
> > We just need to come up with a class name people are happy with for excluding an image from Media Viewer or related tools. We already exclude images which have a .metadata class, but there are images that aren't really metadata but still not appropriate.
> >
> > Any ideas? What class name do you recommend we use to convey this important information?
> >
> > Here are some possible ideas, to get this conversation started;
> > * hide
> > * exclude
> > * noshow
> > * ??
> >
> > It would be best if we agreed on a name that is not tied to Media Viewer, so it can be used by other tools which may have the same needs, now or in the future.
> >
> > Once we settle on a class name, we can schedule that feature for development, so editors can filter out unsuitable images for everyone’s viewing pleasure :)
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback!
> >
> >
> > Fabrice
> >
> > _______________________________
> >
> > Fabrice Florin
> > Product Manager, Multimedia
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
> Probably much harder to implement... but it might be more consistent to have it as part of the file embedding syntax. E.g. [[file:foo.png|thumb|no-viewer|...]]
>
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wikipedias by local people who are interested in doing this. I would welcome
many projects. We will see what works and what does not. If people who start
a project steal a page out of the Neapolitan book we will do exceedingly
well. The argument that we do not need to revive languages is problematic in
my opinion. The problem is that WE do not revive these languages, it is the
people wo are the community of this wikipedia who do that. When they do well
they will become us as well. My point is, do we want to be inclusionist or
do we want to exclusionists. There is always a reason why we should not do
something. The point is that it is not you who is doing it, it is you who is
denying someone else.

As to anonymous people voting, might it be possible that they are actually
be people speaking that language that say they want to get involved? (assume
good faith) And given all these people who are NOT going to involve
themselve in a language why would they vote against, what is it to them?

Thanks,
GerardM


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poorly. I have the feeling that he does not get what I tried to say..
So let me try again.

On 2/20/06, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
> GerardM wrote:
>
> >The material was created at http://wikibooks.org/wiki/Farsi. It was in
> >the days when everything was still there. The original material had
> >one basic flaw; it was written left to right while Farsi is written
> >from left to right.  While working on this material, it struck me that
> >it is really sad that you have to create teaching material that is as
> >basic as this for every language.
> >
> I don't see anything sad about it at all.  It seems perfectly normal
> that newbies to Farsi or any other subject would begin at this very
> basic level.

It is indeed perfectly normal that people new to Farsi need to learn
their characters, need to learn the sounds of the language, need to
learn to read from right to left. What is sad is that we have to work
hard to create such material for all languages.. remember there are
over 10.000 languages out there..

>
> >As we were creating the concepts for what was called "Ultimate
> >Wiktionary" but what is currently known as WiktionaryZ, it came to me
> >that we should not have the Dutch words there as the translation for
> >the Farsi content, but that we should have the translation of the
> >Farsi words in the language of the student. This would mean that
> >everybody can use the material.
> >
> This is not a Wiktionary issue; it is a grammar issue.  It is about
> deciding where the to put the line between vocabulary and how it is put
> together to form a language.  These lessons should be in the Wikibook
> for the student's own language, where the particularities of the target
> language will be explained in a way that he understands.  As long as a
> lesson is a mere word list nobody will be able to learn from it.

What I discuss is the idea to have what is called for WiktionaryZ a
"DefinedMeaning"; a word is associated with a particular definition.
This combination of a word in a language and its defintion is
translated in as many languages as possible. When the word in Farsi is
partnered with a reference to a DefinedMeaning, we can based on things
like the language settings of the user show a word like "mother" in
the user's language for me it would be "moeder" wiht ?????.

When you look at the Farsi lessons; you might have noticed that in
every lesson a few more sounds and characters are introduced. That is
the objective of these lessons.

>
> >Today I was asked by someone where the Farsi lessons were, somebody
> >actually wants to use it.. This means that all this effort had people
> >use it... It meant that all the pronunciations were going to be
> >listened to... The material is not there anymore .. it is not useful
> >anymore ..
> >
> The material is still there but most of the pages appear to have been
> orphaned.  See [[Talk:Farsi]] for links when someone was asking about
> what to do with the orphaned pages.  It was User 83.116.146.232
> <http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User:83.116.146.232&action=edit>
> who copied all this material to the fa:wikibooks, and re-linked to it to
> create all the orphans.  His effort was incomplete as he did not do this
> with the later lessons.  He has not been seen since March of last year.
>

The material in the Farsi wikibooks is there because that is the way
to get right to left orientation for these lessons. They are called
from the [[wikibooks:Farsi]] page. They are therefore not orphaned
even though your wiki experience might suggest it is.

> >I do not doubt that the people who worked on it intended well, but at
> >this moment it is not Farsi / Dutch, it is not Farsi / English it is
> >certainly unusable.
> >
> >The timing could have been worse; Brion is busy with the integration
> >of the namespace manager. It is therefore possible to have pages in
> >the fa.wikibooks that are specific for the Dutch language and pages
> >specific for the English language. Alternatively we could have a
> >namespace for Farsi content in the nl.wikibooks. This would mean
> >however that we should be able to have a namespace that is oriented in
> >a different direction from the other namespaces in a database. I do
> >not know if we can do this already, I am sure however that we will
> >want something like this for the right to left languages like Farsi in
> >WiktionaryZ.
> >
> The lesson pages should likely have a mixed orientation, but primarily
> in the orientation of the student's own language since that is where the
> instructions will go.
>
> >Now there is one practical question remaining; what will we do with
> >the Farsi lessons in the fa.wikibooks that were originally intended to
> >teach Dutch people Farsi.
> >
> Assuming that the situation in nl:wikibooks is similar to the English
> one, the situation should be explained to the fa:community.  They then
> should feel free to delete them based on their own rules.
>

Last time I read some Dutch, it was indeed left to right. :)

Thanks,
    GerardM


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her jobs would be classification of our documents, including the
history of our community. I think that we would start with translation
of these documents in English.


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linguistic entity. The second one is can it be adopted by bodies like the
ISO. The arguments that I have seen so far are not persuasive at all. GIven
also the POV attitude of the Siberian Wikipedia, the question to research
this further is not really that interesting. When the Siberian Wikipedia
were to be a normal project, we could ask for recognition but I do not feel
that this is appropriate in this case.

Personally I would not have a problem when the Siberian Wikipedia is given a
warning that it has to mend its POV ways. Second they have to get the ISO
recognition and certainly if it is not seen that they do change their ways
and do not get this recognition within half a year I would close the
project.

NB This is clearly my personal opinion.

Thanks,
     GerarrdM

On 8/2/07, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In general, I understand both: Language SubCom and Board for lack of
> will/time to work on such issues: LangSubCom shouldn't deal with
> closure of some project and Board has much more important issues to
> work on. However, in the present situation only Board is able to make
> such decision and only LangSubCom is body which may give expertize.
> So, my first suggestion was based on the simple relation: what do we
> have and what do we need.
>
> If both bodies are not willing to deal with such issues, the idea
> about making Meta ArbCom is better then nothing. So, I support this
> idea in the sense "what do we have and what do we need".
>
> However, positions of ArbComs shouldn't be strong, because ~10 persons
> shouldn't be able make Wikimedia-wide decisions. Also, it is quite
> reasonable to suppose that such body will be under strong pressure: I
> may suppose that a lot of people will try to find a way how to make
> influence on those people, as well as I am sure that they will have
> much more job then they would be able to do.
>
> Also, even we have such body, it is always possible that it will say
> the same as Board and LangSubCom said for this case: we are not
> competent for this issue (or: sorry, we have a lot of job to do and we
> are not able to work on your issue because we think that it is less
> important then other issues).
>
> Because of all of such cases I think that the best solution is to make
> a body which will just work on preparing of Wikimedia-wide votings.
>
> And it is not so hard to make a good enough model for voting (which,
> btw, may be different from for different cases). For example, rules
> may be:
>
> We need people who are enough in Wikimedia and her projects, so:
> - Board members, chapter board members, (sub)committee members,
> stewards, Meta community and developers (may some groups more?) are
> enough trusting, so we don't need to check them.
> - Other method for persons to whom Wikimedian projects are important
> is at least non-bot 1000 edits on all Wikimedian projects. Also, one
> year of presence may be another condition.
> - A method for checking reliability may be one year without any block
> more then 24 hours.
> - etc. etc.
>
> We need this because we need a general method for making decisions
> which are global, but not WMF related. Today we have problem related
> to Siberian Wikipedia, but tomorrow we will have a problem which even
> wouldn't be related to any (sub)committee's expertise.
>
> On 8/1/07, Johannes Rohr <jorohr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Milos Rancic" <millosh at gmail.com>
> > writes:
> >
> > > According to the experience from past cases, the only decisions in
> > > relation to such cases had been made by Jimmy/Board or Language
> > > SubCom. According to that, there are some options to solve the
> > > problem:
> > >
> > > - Jimmy shouldn't make any personal decision in such cases. However,
> > > Board may do that.
> > > - Language SubCom shouldn't have power to close some project,
> >
> > ...and langcom members are not interested in getting involved, see
> > GerardM's earlier comment on this subject.[1]
> >
> > >so possible solution here is: Language SubCom suggests something,
> > >then Board makes decision according to this suggestion as well as
> > >according to all other circumstances.
> >
> > except that the board does not wish to get involved either, see Erik
> > M?ller's statement on this.[2]
> >
> > > - Maybe the best solution is to introduce Wikimedia-wide voting in
> > > such cases: Like as voting for the Board, people from all communities
> > > will be called to vote about this issue. Personally, I think that
> > > introduction of such polls will push forward our community.
> >
> > I don't believe that voting is the right way to go. A solid decision
> > on this topic requires at least some insight into the matter. Votes,
> > at least when accompanied by discussion, tend to evolve into endless
> > flamefests, where decisions are taken on the ground of feelings rather
> > than facts. See the Siberian discussion to convince yourselves.[3] I
> > strongly believe that the decision on ru-sib should not be taken in
> > such a sharkpool.
> >
> > The best idea I've read so far is that of a Meta Arbitration Committee
> > which was suggested by GerardM.[4] However,  practical
> > steps in this direction have yet to been taken.
> >
> > > The good thing is that, thanks to creation of Language SubCom, we
> > > will never have any Siberian Wikipedia more.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > While I have my doubts wether the new policy isn't actually too
> > strict, the fact that there will be no new Wikis in private conlangs
> > is indeed a major achievement. But still, the one Siberian Wikipedia
> > is still around and I fear that it will take quite a long time, until
> > a solution (like moving the whole thing to Wikia) will finally
> > materialise, if ever.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Johannes
> >
> >
> > Footnotes:
> > [1]
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/029940.html
> >
> > [2]
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/029937.html
> >
> > [3]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Siberian_Wikipedia
> >
> > [4]  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closure_of_WMF_projects
> >
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accessibility in China. I think that would be unacceptable.

Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> When Wikipedia is not legal in a country, it brings the people who are
> living in that country and edit in danger. When Wikipedia is not legal
> in that country, it means that we are hampered in our aim; bringing
> information to all people. It is not at all ridiculous at all to want to
> be legal in all countries. When some content is problematic, the office
> has the right and the might to remove such an article from a project.
> Particularly on the English language Wikipedia this happens with some
> regularity. It does happen on other language projects as well.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> David Strauss schreef:
>> You're arguing from the ridiculous premise that Wikipedia must be legal
>> in every country. Even the topics of some articles aren't legal in some
>> countries.
>>
>> rfrangi at libero.it wrote:
>>
>>> Gerard, I will not only think Internet. I hope others will not think only USA. If the point is "If we use a fair-use image, a commercial organization can at least take whole Wikipedia pages and re-use them." Well, this is not necessarlily true outside the USA. So fair use images should be banned for the same reason that applies to NC's.
>>>
>>> Roberto (Snowdog)
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Could you shed some light on what the Chapters Committee can bring to this world please?

Kind regards,

Joe

On 11/9/07, Delphine M?nard <notafishz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The chapters committee [1] has now existed for almost two years and
> with the growing number of chapters in the making and existing
> chapters, the original crew is seeking reinforcements.
>
> So if you (in no particular order):
> - are aware of what the Wikimedia organisation is all about
> - are ready to read lots of long boring bylaw documents
> - are involved in Wikimedia on an international level
> - have time to invest in this task
> - preferably have some kind of international experience
> - are ready to learn about many different legal systems
> - are good at making your point go across without alienating anyone
> - think chapters are important
> - fluent in English
> - are interested in working with the existing crew
>
> please contact us at chaptercommittee-l[AT]lists.wikimedia[PUNTO]org
> with a little explanation of why you are interested, and what you
> think you can bring to the chapters committee.
>
> We are looking at adding around 3 members to the chapters committee at
> this stage.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Delphine
> Chair of the chapters committee
>
> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee
>
> Other useful links:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Local_chapter_FAQ
> --
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"Using volumes 25cm high and 5cm thick (some 400 pages), each page
having two columns, each columns having 80 rows, and each row having
50 characters, ? 6MB per volume. As English Wikipedia has around 7.5GB
of text (August 2007, length of wikitext counted by myself) ? 1250
volumes. Note that this is a conservative estimate, as it doesn't
include images, tables etc. which take up more surface than the text
which describes them."

Using pages with dimensions described here; 400 pages x 1250 volumes =
500 000 pages of text in August 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes uses another
method to calculate size in volumes, using a live measure of size, and
arrives at "equivalen[ce] to 766 volumes of the Encyclop?dia
Britannica". 500 x 766 = 383 000
Britannica-sized leaves. Again, this seems to ignore images, tables, &c.

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making the slightest attempt to communicate with the communities as much
as possible, is Florence. And what a surprise, her seat is up for grabs.

Like it or not board, you work for us. Not for yourselves. I think this
is a wake up call and I think now the communities are sick of it, and
not going totake it anymore.

Sorry if this sound rude or confrontational, but it seems that this is
the only way to get anyone's attention, who is on the board these days
as they seem to only pay attention to whats said on here and on meta. So
that being the case, it gets increasingly frustrating to have to be
civil and not get anything in return. So please see where I am coming
from, and the others who feel the same way.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Community_petition

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classify languages. A constructed language is as a consequence explicitly
different from a reconstructed language. In a constructed language new
vocabulary can be created. From my point of view, a reconstructed language
is not the same as the historical, ancient or extinct language it builds
upon. When you consider Latin, according to iso-639 an ancient language, the
standard has it in my opinion wrong because the language never got
completely in disuse.

The discussion about whether we should have constructed languages is in
essence a boring one. People have their opinions and they are typically
unreasonable about it. It would be good when we have some objective criteria
for this. This will keep these ever recurring discussions go away somewhat
more easily. From my point of view, a language needs to have an ISO-639-3
language code and acquiring this is not trivial. When a language can then
show some 200 really well written articles with an active community of at
least five people and having done a good job on the localisation, they can
have my blessing. In this way, the criteria for such a language are much
harsher then natural languages and this should be sufficient for the
exclusionists.

Thanks,
     GerardM

On Jan 21, 2008 6:41 PM, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/1/21, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 at gmail.com>:
>
> > Good questions, all, and I think it deserves a good reply. As far as I
> > am concerned, a language (constructed or natural) is worthy of having
> > a wiki project under one of two conditions:
> > 1) If the language has a large number of natural speakers. A wiki
> > project can be used to faciliate communication and the sharing of
> > information among these people
> > 2) If the language has a large number of secondary-speakers. In this
> > case, the language can be used to faciliate the share of information
> > between people who are not able to communicate directly using their
> > natural languages.
>
> I would put 2) even stricter: We should only count secondary-speakers
> for which the language can reasonably be expected to have a Wikipedia
> of similar or larger size than their first language. Someone with
> English as their first language would not have much use of the
> Esperanto Wikipedia, since they can get all and more on the English
> Wikipedia. But apart from the few first-language Esperanto speakers
> there are plenty of second-language speakers whose first language is
> not in the top-10 Wikipedia languages. For them there might be
> considerable material in Esperanto that's not in their first language.
>
> > Latin: Has few (but some) primary speakers, and a large number of
> > secondary speakers. However, Latin may be problematic for other
> > reasons besides these. Latin doesnt have words for many "modern"
> > concepts that are worth discussing, and many people who know latin are
> > familiar with different forms of latin (latin for catholic mass, dog
> > latin, etc).
>
> I disagree with those objections. There are Latin words created for
> modern terms by the Catholic church. And there are different forms of
> Latin, but I am unconvinced that those differences are more
> problematic than (for example) the differences between European and
> Brazilian Portuguese.
>
> > Just because you or I speak a particular language doesnt mean that
> > it's important in the global sense, or that it is useful in spreading
> > information. Small languages, including small conlangs and natural
> > languages, can be a very large barrier to communication simply because
> > not enough people choose to write it, and few people are able to read
> > it. Having large numbers of articles, especially poor-quality or
> > bot-generated articles (especially in the case of Volapuk) is not
> > really a counter-argument to this point.
>
> My opinion would be that a Wikipedia in a language should be there to
> give information to its readers. If there are few or no readers, that
> will not work out. I have strong doubts to that for Klingon or
> tokipona, but also to for example Anglo-Saxon and to a lesser extent
> volap?k and Latin. I get the idea that those are made by people for
> the fun of writing and reading in those languages rather than
> primarily as a means of communication. Having fun writing and reading
> in some language is a valid aim, but not one that Wikipedia is for.
>
>
> --
> Andre Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
> ICQ: 6260644  --  Skype: a_engels
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"Two discussions are currently on hold while we examine technical
feasibility:
* sending an official notification email to all eligible voters;"

Regards,

KTC

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Erik - big thx.

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development (the "five year plan"), outreach and communications were
key areas of investment.

I assume we can expect a new Annual Plan shortly, which will outline
the investment strategy for 2010 and 2011.  Will it be based on the
"Emerging strategic priorities" page on the strategy wiki?

1. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2009-2010_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers
2. http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Emerging_strategic_priorities

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Note that per ? 2257 (h)(2)(iii), anyone

"inserting on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise managing the sexually explicit content of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, sexually explicit conduct"

is liable to receive a prison sentence of up to 5 years, for a first-time offence, if they fail to comply with the record-keeping requirements of ? 2257.

Doesn't this raise the possibility that Commons administrators might become personally liable if, for example, they decide to keep a sexually explicit image that is subsequently found to have depicted a minor?

There are other aspects involved in drafting Commons:Sexual_content that need expert legal input, for example, which types of pornography are legal in the US, and which ones are not.

We are all laypersons there, so please help us out.

Andreas

1 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00002257----000-.html


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together in Mumbai for the India Hackathon 2011
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011>, focusing on
mobile access, localization, and offline distribution. The hackathon was
held simultaneously with WikiConference India 2011
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011>, an event
organized by Wikimedia India. The WikiConference had nearly 700
participants, making it one of the largest Wikimedia events ever
<https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/02/wikiconference-india/>, and
certainly the largest so far in India. More than 50 sessions
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Programs>
provided insights on community building, improving project quality,
establishing partnerships, best practices in outreach and opportunities
for general experience sharing.

=== A new tool for helping new editors ===

<Image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MoodBar-Rollover-Confused.png />

Since August, the experimental ?Moodbar? function has invited new users
on the English Wikipedia to quickly and easily provide feedback on their
editing experience by entering a 140 character comment. All these
comments are posted as a public feed on the Feedback Dashboard. In
November, we added a new functionality
<https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/30/helping-new-editors-by-responding-to-their-feedback/>
that enables experienced editors to easily respond to this feedback
without leaving the dashboard. Wikimedia Foundation Community Organizers
Steven Walling and Maryana Pinchuk have started a Response Team
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_editor_feedback/Response_team>
of experienced editors willing to help out new users in this way.

We're continuing to improve this system and assess its impact;
specifically, whether new users read the messages they receive, and
whether editing activity increases as a result of active coaching.

=== Fundraiser ===

The annual Wikimedia fundraiser launched on November 16th with over $1M
donated on the first day. $10,433,402.89 were donated until the end of
the month, in a total of 545,362 donations. The significant increase in
contributors across more regions of the world can largely be attributed
to the increase in the number of currencies Wikimedia is able to accept
this year - more than 80.

In addition to the annual personal appeal from Jimmy Wales, this year's
fundraising campaign features new voices, including community members
and Wikimedia Foundation staff.

Compared with the previous year, four times as many volunteers are
contributing to the translation of banners and appeals, including over
700 logged out users (readers?). The Article Feedback Tool enables
anyone to rate the quality of the translations.

== Sue Gardner visits European Wikimedia chapters ==

<Image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:11-11-20-talk-with-sue-69.jpg
Discussion of the image filter in Hanover />

<Image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WLM_AT_025.jpg Award
of Wiki Loves Monuments and Heritage Day. November 17th, 2011 in
the offices of the Federal Monuments Office Vienna, Hofburg />

In November, the Wikimedia Foundation sent a delegation to Europe, in
which Executive Director Sue Gardner, her assistant James Owen, General
Counsel Geoff Brigham and Community Organizer Maryana Pinchuk visited
seven cities in three weeks. The main purpose of the trip was to spend
time with chapters, with the goal of listening to chapters' hopes and
fears, particularly with regards to fundraising and funds dissemination.
A secondary purpose was to spend time with the German community, with
the goal of improving mutual understanding particularly with regard to
ongoing controversy about the possible implementation of a personal
image filter.

The trip also involved a number of other activities, such as meet-ups,
talks and media interviews. The delegation visited Paris, Utrecht,
London, Vienna, Hanover and Berlin. The trip included meetings and/or
meals with five chapter boards, as well as four community meet-ups, and
a variety of other small informal gatherings with chapters people and/or
editors. The group visited the UK National Archives with members of the
UK Board, and helped present awards to the winners of the Wiki Loves
Monuments competition in Vienna. Sue Gardner gave three presentations,
to the UK Board, the German chapter, and to Imperial College in London,
and did six media interviews, in London and Berlin.

The Wikimedia Foundation is grateful to the boards of Wikim?dia France,
Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia ?sterreich and Wikimedia
Deutschland, for their hospitality, openness and candour. Our particular
thanks to the following individuals: Christophe Henner, R?mi Mathis,
Adrienne Alix, Ziko van Dijk, Jan-Bart de Vreede, Roger Bamkin, Andrew
Turvey, Andy Mabbett, Jon Davies, Fiona Apps, Marek69, Kurt Kulac,
Manuel Schneider, Barbara Neubauer, Jo Pugh, Pavel Richter, Sebastian
Moleski, Julia Kloppenburg and Catrin Schoneville.

== Technology ==

A detailed report of the Tech Department's activities for November 2011
can be found at:

    https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2011/November
Department Highlights

Major news in November include:

  * The completion of the coding challenge, and two coding events in
    India and the UK;
  * Continued infrastructure work in our data centers to improve
    performance and reliability, and on the Labs project;
  * Progress on the Visual editor and its back-end;
  * New versions of the Feedback Dashboard and the Upload Wizard,
    bringing new and long-awaited features;
  * Fundraising engineering going full-swing, in parallel with the
    annual fundraising campaign;
  * The final release of MediaWiki 1.18.0.

=== Operations ===

  * *Data Centers* ? Eight new database servers for external storage
    were deployed in our Ashburn and Tampa data centers (EQIAD and
    SDTPA), to retire about 30 aging servers. The goal was to add
    capacity, improve performance, consume less power and provide cross
    data-center data recovery and redundancy. This gave us back one rack
    of server space, which is significant given the space constraint at
    SDTPA. In Amsterdam, SSDs were added to the Squid servers to improve
    read performance, and we upgraded the core switch. In Tampa, 66
    servers were retired, donated and shipped to various non-profits.
    More generally, our configuration management tool Puppet was
    upgraded and deployed to all of our lab and production servers.

  * *Wikimedia Labs* ? OpenStack Nova was upgraded from /cactus/ to
    /diablo/. A GlusterFS filesystem was added on all compute nodes via
    puppet, to act as storage for the instances. A default sudo policy
    was also added for instances: project members now have sudo
    permissions, excluding global projects. Shared home directories are
    also available in a per project manner. 15 projects and 36 instances
    have been created, and 46 people have been given Labs accounts so far.

=== Features Engineering ===

  * *Visual editor* ? Trevor Parscal fixed issues blocking the
    synchronization of structural edits to the user interface,
    refactored and cleaned up the code, and mapped out tasks and
    features to be supported. He also finished the document transaction
    functionality and made progress on an undo/redo system. Roan Kattouw
    added tests, rewrote some code to make the tests pass, and fixed a
    number of bugs and issues, notably in Internet Explorer. Inez
    Korczynski continued to work on content insertion, deletion and
    selection and fixed numerous bugs. Gabriel Wicke improved WikiDom
    compatibility, and evaluated alternatives to the PEG parser for
    robust larger-scale parsing. He defined an interface between the
    tokenizer and HTML parsers and started to improve the parser test
    system. He also implemented several wikitext features (lists,
    nowiki, pre, italics, bold) as token stream transformations.

  * *Feedback Dashboard* ? Dario Taraborelli updated the research page
    dedicated to MoodBar to include responses. Benny Situ fixed bugs,
    and implemented and deployed the feedback response API. Rob Moen
    deployed in-line reply functionality, giving experienced editors the
    ability to respond to MoodBar feedback while staying on the
    dashboard, as well as bug fixes and admin action enhancements. (see
    also "Highlights" section above)

  * *UploadWizard* ? Neil Kandalgaonkar and Ian Baker deployed a set of
    important improvements, including multi-file selection for browsers
    which support it, custom wikitext licenses, an improved licensing
    workflow, basic support for location data extraction, and more.
    Support for chunked uploading (which improves reliability of large
    file transfers) was temporarily backed out and is still being worked on.

=== Mobile ===

  * *MobileFrontend* ? Phil Chang announced that all Wikimedia wikis
    would see their mobile version converted to the new mobile platform
    by the end of November, and explained how to make home pages
    compatible with it. This prompted a discussion about the design
    choice to hide any content on the main page that isn't specifically
    labeled for mobile display. Mobile was also a focus of the India
    hackathon, during which new features were developed.

=== Special projects ===

  * *2011 Fundraiser* ? The annual fundraiser launched, with support for
    76 new credit card currencies, including some which have been
    long-desired: Rupees, Russian Rubles, and Brazilian Reals. The
    fundraising engineering team added support to the DonationInterface
    extension for JCB credit card donations, BPay in Australia, three
    new real time banking options including iDeal, direct debit for six
    countries, manual bank transfers in more than 50 countries, and
    Webmoney, with more on the way. DonationInterface also benefited
    from enhancements to the RapidHtml credit card form templating
    system. From an operations perspective, databases were migrated for
    increased capacity and stability and the data center failover
    capacity was consolidated. We also added the ability to have
    translated 'thank you' emails. The ContributionReporting extension
    was enhanced to allow custom selection of fundraising years to
    display, but the entire feature was disabled after it caused a brief
    site outage due to cache stampeding. The FundraiserLandingPage
    extension was developed and deployed, making it easier to
    dynamically construct template calls for fundraiser landing pages
    depending on a potential donor's country. Last, the team fixed a
    number of new bugs and issues, surfaced because of the increased
    usage of the donation pipeline.

=== Platform engineering ===

  * *MediaWiki 1.18* ? Developers sprinted to fix the last blocker bugs,
    and the ones uncovered by testers. Sam Reed announced the first beta
    release and first release candidate of MediaWiki 1.18. Mark
    Hershberger followed up on comments on the English Wikipedia's
    Village pump related to the deployment of 1.18, bugs reported in
    Bugzilla, and installation and upgrade reports. Sam announced the
    final 1.18.0 release on November 27th, as well as the 1.17.1
    security release.

  * *Git conversion* ? Chad Horohoe got a lot of help from the community
    on identifying unknown committers; user mapping is now complete.
    Gitorious was installed on a virtual machine, and a test git
    conversion of the MediaWiki code repository is now imminent.
    Meanwhile, there have also been discussions about e-mail aliases for
    LDAP users, to avoid disclosing private e-mail addresses. Chad and
    Brion Vibber worked on changes to the development workflow
    introduced by the move to git (e.g., when continuous integration
    tests get run).

  * *SwiftMedia* ? Ben Hartshorne set up the initial development
    environment for Engineering to have a platform on which to test and
    continue development of the SwiftMedia extension. Ben and Mark
    Bergsma continue to do performance testing on Swift prior to using
    it in production. Aaron Schulz started to refactor the FileBackend
    extension, a requirement to using SwiftMedia.

== Research ==

  * We held the 7th Research Committee Meeting (full minutes are
    available at [1]), where a proposal was discussed to launch a
    Wikimedian in Residence program targeting scientific institutions,
    modeled around GLAM and supported by the RCom. RCom members Daniel
    Mietchen, Yaroslav Blanter and Cheryl Moy are leading this initiative.
  * Former Summer of Research fellow Melanie Kill [2] joined the
    Research Committee as a full member in November.
  * We reviewed and supported research proposals on an ongoing basis [3]
    and provided technical support for the launch of a large-scale study
    by Harvard University and Sciences Po, due to go live in December.
    The launch of the study will be announced on the Wikimedia
    Foundation's blog. [4]
  * We published the 5th issue of the monthly Wikimedia Research
    Newsletter (WRN), covering 13 scholarly works on Wikimedia projects
    published recently [5].

[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Committee/Meetings/Meeting_2011-11-03

[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Drkill

[3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Projects

[4]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Dynamics_of_Online_Interactions_and_Behavior

[5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2011-11-28

== Community ==

Department Highlights

  * Launched Fundraiser with $1M +/day on the first 3 days (see
    "Highlights" section and details below)
  * New editor feedback response team created (see "Highlights" section)

=== Projects ===

Editor Retention

  * In early November, Steven and Maryana invited community members to
    join a new taskforce dedicated to answering the feedback of new
    editors that appears on English Wikipedia via the experimental
    FeedbackDashboard created by the features team (see also
    "Highlights" section). This is the first time experienced
    Wikipedians may find the real-time feedback of new editors
    aggregated in a single place ready for help.[1] With more than 30
    team members, we are still far from our goal of getting a response
    to every single piece of feedback, so please join! [2]
  * Maryana Pinchuk and Steven Walling expanded their A/B testing of the
    content of template notifications to new editors,[3][4] including
    with new community-created templates and with the extremely active
    XLinkBot, which reverts users adding potentially inappropriate
    external links on English Wikipedia. The first month-long test in
    Portuguese Wikipedia was also wrapped up and data analysis begun,
    and the testing project was also expanded to the German Wikipedia
    [5]. Last but not least, plans were laid on the English Wikipedia
    for a test of the automated archiving of old, stale notifications on
    the talk pages of shared or dynamic IP addresses of anonymous
    editors. This project is designed to see whether providing a clean
    slate on the talk pages can increase account registrations and
    constructive edits from shared IP addresses.
  * Maryana accompanied Sue Gardner and Geoff Brigham on their tour of
    Europe (see "Highlights" section), where she met with Wikimedians in
    the Netherlands, UK, Austria, and Germany and started a dialog with
    those communities about expanding editor retention initiatives.

1.
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/30/helping-new-editors-by-responding-to-their-feedback/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_editor_feedback/Response_team

3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_A/B_testing

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UWTEST

5. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_Warnhinweise

=== Fundraiser ===

Fundraiser

  * The 2011 fundraiser launched on November 16, bringing in over USD
    1.2 million in the first 24 hours.
  * Donations have been received from 205 countries and territories,
    from donors from 122 languages, in 66 currencies.
  * The fundraiser launched with banners featuring Jimmy Wales, before
    starting a phase with appeals from editors. Testing continues, see
    updates on Meta (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011 )

Fundraiser Translations

  * The fundraiser launched this month with full-force localization, and
    Jon Harald S?by's fellowship project has boosted translation
    participation four-fold for the annual fundraiser so far. 1371
    translators are actively contributing to the effort (including 795
    IPs), which is over 1000 more than the 361 active translators who
    contributed in all of 2010.
  * We have translations in 112 languages (compared to 83 languages in
    2010), and 461 translations have been completed and published so far
    - this is more than all translations that were begun but not
    necessarily completed in 2010 combined.

Major Gifts and Foundations

  * Announced a $500,000 general support grant from the Brin Wojcicki
    Foundation
  * Submitted reports for the Hewlett Foundation and the Stanton Foundation

=== Fellowship Program ===

  * In preparation for a December recruitment drive to bring new fellows
    for 2012, program pages and process have been overhauled.[1]
  * Planning and discussions are underway for WP:TEAHOUSE, a fellowship
    project to be piloted in early 2012 and aimed at improving new
    editor retention by modeling a social approach to newbie support,
    help and socialization into the community distinct from existing
    1-on-1 models and self-support options. Women are a particular
    target for this peer and group-mentorship style support system. [2]
  * See Fundraiser translations section above for updates on Jon's
    fellowship project [3]

1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships

2. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Teahouse

3. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Translation

== Global Development ==

Department Highlights

  * WikiConference India (see general "Highlights" section)
  * Visits to Asia for chapter development and mobile partnerships

=== Grants Awarded and Executed ===

  * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Community_of_Arabic_Wikipedia/Producer_Prize
  * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:GLAM-WIKI_US/GLAMcamp_DC

=== East Asia Visit ===

  * Liam Wyatt, as Cultural Partnerships Fellow, visited Japan, speaking
    at the annual Librarians' conference in Yokohama
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ja:%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88:%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A6%E3%83%88%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81>
    and participating in a Wikipedia Academy in Kyoto
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ja:PJ:GLAM2011/Wittylama>
  * Liam was joined by Asaf Bartov, Head of Grants and Global South
    Relationships, in a visit to South Korea, where they spent some time
    with the Wikimedian community in Seoul, delivered a short workshop
    on chapter work, and spoke on GLAM and the Global Education Program
    at the first Wikipedia Academy in Korea, held at the National
    Library of Korea <http://www.nl.go.kr/nlmulti/index.php?lang_mode=e>.
  * Asaf proceeded to the Philippines, where he spent a week helping
    Wikimedia Philippines create partnerships and opportunities with a
    number of government, academic, and non-profit partners:
      o Established partnerships with Mozilla Philippines, Creative
        Commons Philippines, and the Computer Professionals' Union (a
        free software and open content advocacy group)
      o Delivered general outreach talks at the University of the City
        of Manila <http://www.plm.edu.ph/> and at St. Scholastica's
        College <http://www.ssc.edu.ph/>
      o Presented about GLAM and opened partnership discussions with the
        National Commission for Culture and the Arts (NCCA)
        <http://www.ncca.gov.ph/main.php> and the National Library of
        the Philippines <http://web.nlp.gov.ph/nlp/>
      o Discussed issues of "freedom of panorama"
        <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama>
        and copyright on government-produced works with the Director of
        the Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines
        <http://www.ipophil.gov.ph/>

=== Brazil Catalyst <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project> ===

==== Research on Portuguese Wikipedia ====

Finalizing the Portuguese Wikipedia research project, we have come out
with a few conclusions and recommendations, which can be seen in more
detail here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Portuguese_Wikipedia_trends_and_behavior/Suggestions

 1. Make editing more fun!
 2. Welcome new users
 3. Improve techniques to fight vandalism
 4. Re-evaluate methods of dealing with conflict

==== Hiring National Program Director ====

We opened the position for the national program director:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/RFP/Brazil_National_Program_Director

We are working in conjunction with recruiter Michael Page in order to
fill this position, with an anticipated start date mid-January 2012.

=== Arabic Catalyst ===

  * Finalized the process required for hiring a regional manager
  * Planned an outreach tour across MENA that starts end of December
    2011, to touch base with local communities and explore possible
    cultural partners
  * Starting to build a task force that should layout a strategy for an
    Arabic translation project
  * Sara Yap is building out the MENA Global Education Program resource
    page for past, current and future information:
    http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Education_Program_MENA
  * Sara finalized a report on the October 2011 trip (see
    http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Foundation_Report_for_Middle_East_and_North_Africa_Trip.pdf
  )

=== Wikimania Scholarships ===

Scholarship committee is beginning to kick off work again. Goal is to
broadcast the scholarships more broadly and try to get increased
applications from developing countries.

=== Mobile and Business Development ===

  * Completed Proof of Concept SMS/USSD
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data)
    testing on Tata Docomo's network, with the help of the Praekelt
    Foundation, at the Mumbai Hackathon
  * Other tech dev for partners accomplished at Hackathon with help from
    India community developers: localization of Android app into Turkish
    & Russian; localized landing pages on mobile; frames on mobile site
    for operator partners on Wikipedia zero
  * In discussions with multiple operators in India and SE Asia to
    extend free access to Wikipedia to their customers throughout those
    regions. Looking at launching pilots beginning of Q1

=== Offline Wikipedia ===

  * Significant volunteer recruitment effort took place at the
    WikiConference and Hackathon in India.
  * Usability testing on Kiwix (offline reader) identified a few key
    areas of needed improvement
  * Met with potential partners throughout India about distribution of
    offline Wikipedia throughout education system. Of note:
      o Pratham Foundation - install offline Wikipedia into their
        computer labs; incorporate into the curriculum for the
        "Education for Education" which is training for their volunteers
      o Akshara Foundation - install offline Wikipedia into their
        computer labs and incorporate into their library lessons
      o Aakash tablet - working with government and manufacturers on how
        to incorporate offline Wikipedia into the distribution of the
        $35 tablet

=== Global development research ===

  * Editor survey version 2.0 is in translation, and will be launched
    next month. We worked out an agreement with Qualtrics -- a
    proprietary survey vendor in absence of Lime Survey. Ayush is
    working on programming the survey, along with two interns.
  * India + Brazil mobile report is finished. We are working on making
    the findings available in a wiki format. Parul and Mani did a
    presentation to all the stakeholders of the research. At the India
    hackathon, developers worked on creating a new landing page for
    India for mobile site as per the recommendation of the report.
  * Mobile survey data is being cleaned.
  * Mani + Ayush continued to share findings from the readers study on
    the blog. http://blog.wikimedia.org/tag/readers-survey/
  * See "Brazil Catalyst Project" for the Portuguese Wikipedia research
    summary

=== Wikipedia Education Program ===

  * The team ? together with volunteers in different parts of the world
    ? held the second metrics and activities meeting for the Wikipedia
    Education Program. All participants shared learnings and best
    practices of the past couple of months.
  * Annie Lin and Frank Schulenburg are working on preparing the start
    of a pilot in Cairo, Egypt. They reached out to the local community
    of editors on the Arabic Wikipedia, explaining the concept of the
    pilot and asking for feedback. Annie also reached out to a number of
    professors at different universities in Cairo in preparation for a
    trip to Egypt in early December.
  * Ayush Khanna created a survey to be conducted among the students who
    participated in the Education Program in fall 2011. The survey has
    been sent to students in India; students in the U.S. and in Canada
    will answer the survey questions in December.
  * Led by Rod Dunican, the team is working on a revised version of the
    orientation for Campus Ambassadors, Online Ambassadors and Regional
    Ambassadors. A new orientation for professors participating in the
    program will be added to the list of training modules. All training
    modules will be hosted on the outreach wiki, so they can be modified
    and adapted to the local needs.
  * LiAnna Davis and Frank Schulenburg are working with design
    strategist David Peters and Head of Communications Jay Walsh on a
    new visual identity for the Wikipedia Education Program. The visual
    identity will follow the open approach of the Wikipedia Ten campaign.
  * Annie Lin hired Jami Mathewson. As the U.S. Education Program
    Associate, Jami will facilitate the growth and improvement of our
    activities in the United States, to make sure that the U.S. wing of
    the Global Education Program remains high-quality. In particular,
    she will work through the Wikipedia Regional Ambassadors ? volunteer
    leaders in the Wikipedia Ambassador program ? to both deepen and
    broaden the support that we give to professors, Campus Ambassadors,
    and Online Ambassadors regarding Wikipedia's use in the classroom.
  * LiAnna Davis and Frank Schulenburg interviewed experienced Wikipedia
    editors from India and educated WMF staff about India as part of the
    post-mortem analysis of the India Education Program. Campus
    Ambassador Abhishek Suryawanshi volunteered to conduct interviews
    with students, professors, and Campus Ambassadors in Pune. Based on
    these interviews, LiAnna Davis worked on an analysis of the issues
    encountered during the Pune pilot.
  * Frank Schulenburg and Rod Dunican provided the Wikimedia Tech Team
    with a requirements document for engineering support. After a
    meeting with members of the Tech Team, Frank is working with tech to
    build MediaWiki extensions that enhance our ability to measure the
    outcome of the program and that will also improve the on-wiki
    experience for professors and students.
  * Rod Dunican, Jami Mathewson and Frank Schulenburg met professors and
    students at the New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT). NJIT is
    planning start a pilot in spring 2012 in order to explore the option
    of further institutionalizing the program later that year.

=== India Programs ===

==== Global Education Program ====

  * Students in the program have now stopped editing.
      o Most classes at Symbiosis School of Economics (SSE) reached
        their deadlines and have finished working on their wiki assignments.
      o Because a lot of students were still carrying out some forms of
        plagiarism, we had to conclude the program at College of
        Engineering at Pune (CoEP).
  * We are currently working on a qualitative and quantitative analysis
    of the pilot. Looking for patterns across classrooms, batches,
    schools etc.
      o Qualitative Analysis: Tory Read is coming to Delhi & Pune to
        interview Campus Ambassadors, students, professors, involved in
        the India Education Program (IEP). She will also be interviewing
        several community members and English Wikipedia admins to do a
        thorough analysis of the pilot.
      o Quantitative Analysis: Frank's research team will help us put
        together numbers that will be used to draw out qualitative analysis.
  * Will be using our analysis to inform the way forward.
  * Online Ambassadors are working on the review project - working on
    articles that IEP students have written and removing any copyvios or
    poor quality content.
  * The community would like Contributor Copyright Investigations (CCI)
    to take over the review project. They believe that CCI being the
    expert can do a better job in cleaning up the articles than the
    Online Ambassadors, although they acknowledge that what the Online
    Ambassadors have already done will be very valuable to the CCI
    process and to Wikipedia in general.

=== Communications ===

November saw much of Communications work focussed on preparations for
the launch of the 8th annual fundraiser, including press release work,
media strategy, and fielding a wide array of media requests (see
storylines below). Work proceeded (and is now almost complete!) on the
2010-11 WMF Annual Report. Considerable communications support to the
important positioning around the proposed internet blacklist bill being
discussed in Washington, for Sue's visit to Europe, and also
considerable work on hiring for the manager, global communications post
now that Moka Pantages has moved on from WMF.

==== Major announcements ====

Wikimedia kicks off its eighth annual fundraiser (November 16)

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia%E2%80%99s_Contributors_and_Authors_at_the_Center_of_Wikimedia%E2%80%99s_Eighth_Annual_Fundraiser

Brin Wojcicki Foundation Announces $500,000 Grant to Wikimedia (November 18)

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Brin_Wojcicki_Foundation_Announces_$500,000_Grant_to_Wikimedia

==== Major Storylines through August ====

SOPA/Internet blacklist bill

Wikimedia announced its opposition to an internet blacklist bill being
reviewed in Washington DC in November. WMF joined dozens of other
popular web properties and free-culture organizations in protesting the
destructive bill, and the topic received wide (and continuing coverage)
through November - mostly opposing and criticizing the bill.

Wikimedia launches its 8th annual fundraiser

Wikimedia's annual campaign launch drew considerable media interest,
particularly this year in the social media space. Though the campaign
kicked off with several days of record-breaking successes, there was
less coverage of the kickoff than in previous years. A related
announcement of a $500K grant from the Brin Wojcicki Foundation garnered
far more positive and highly visible coverage. Significant social media
coverage focussed on the quirks of the Jimmy Wales (and/or Brandon
Harris) image placement atop article names.

http://allthingsd.com/20111118/wikipedia-gets-500k-from-brin-and-wojcicki-but-what-it-really-wants-is-small-donors/

http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/11/18/googles-brin-wife-donate-500000-to-keep-wikipedia-going/

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/27/creepipedia/

Wikiconference Mumbai and maps protests

The first-ever major wiki conference in India kicked off in November,
and resulted in considerable media coverage - much of it focussing on
the presence of youth protesters challenging the presence of what they
believe to be illegal maps and renditions of India. Most coverage was
fairly balanced of the protests, and focussed on Jimmy Wales opening
keynote insisting that Wikipedia is a place for sharing viewpoints and
staying neutral.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2640098.ece

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15803308

http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/mumbai/WikiConference-concludes-with-a-call-for-more-editors/Article1-771925.aspx

==== Other worthwhile reads ====

Sue's *travels in Europe* (see also "Highlights" section) resulted in
some great coverage in the UK and Germany:

On BBC Radio 4's *World at One*

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qptc

Detailed interview from *Zeit Online*

    http://www.zeit.de/digital/internet/2011-11/sue-gardner-interview


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    http://www.morgenpost.de/newsticker/dpa_nt/infoline_nt/computer_nt/article1834082/Neuer-Wikipedia-Editor-soll-mehr-Frauen-locken.html

Other reads

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/st_essay_wikipediawonders/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-02/wikipedia-india-office-will-help-boost-fundraising-founder-says.html

http://www.economist.com/node/21536580

==== Wikipedia Signpost ====

  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2011-11-07
  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2011-11-14
  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2011-11-21
  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Archives/2011-11-28

==== WMF Blog posts ====

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/

==== Media Contact ====

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_room/Media_Contact#November_2011

== Human Resources ==

HR has accelerated recruiting as promised by adding another recruiter to
the mix. Karen Chelini is a very experienced recruiter, working with the
team primarily on the tech team's hires. She is a contractor and will be
with us through January.

We have several ongoing searches right now, including the CTCO role,
that are turning up some great candidates, so we hope to have more hires
rolling in soon. We continue to fill open slots, and this month there
were several key hires that we put a lot of work into. Welcome all!

We also reviewed and approved a new benefits broker for the Foundation
who has helped us find most cost efficient, and better, pricing for our
employee benefits. This is especially important as we grow not only to
remain competitive in the market, but to also ensure that we are in
compliance with labor laws that may have different requirements
depending on the size of our organization.

New Perm Position Hires

  * Karyn Gladstone, Director of Community Operations (Community)
  * Yue Qiang (Benny) Situ, Features Software Developer Back-end
    (Technology)
  * Andrew White, Office IT Manager (Administration)

New Contractors

  * Karen Chelini
  * Miguel Fonseca
  * Diogo Gouveia
  * Jami Mathewson
  * Rob Moen
  * Sara Oliveira
  * Linda Pennington
  * Crystal Shackleford
  * Gayle Young

Contract Extended

  * Aaron Halfaker
  * Sumana Harihareswara
  * Rayne MacGeorge
  * Jonathan Morgan
  * Guillaume Paumier
  * Neel Punatar
  * Angela Robeson
  * Heather Walls
  * Daniel Zahn

Departed

  * Moka Pantages
  * Carrie Smith

Contract Ended

  * Daniela Fiej?
  * Anthony Riley
  * Sara Yap

New Postings

  * Mobile Partner Development Technical Manager
  * Director of Human Resources

RFPs

  * Brazil Education Program Contractor
  * Brazil National Program Director
  * Global Education Program Online Communications Contractor

Total Employee Count

    November Plan: 108, November Filled: 3, November Attrition: 2
    YTD Filled: 24; YTD Attrition: 8, Actual: 90

Remaining Open positions to fiscal year end: 27

Real-time feed for HR updates: http://identi.ca/wikimediaatwork or
http://twitter.com/wikimediaatwork

== Finance and Administration ==

  * The audited financial statements of the Wikimedia Foundation and
    frequently asked questions for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2011
    were posted <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports>
    to the Wikimedia Foundation website.

  * Andrew White has joined the team as the Manager of Office
    Information Technology

  * Getting ready for the Finance office to take over payroll from Human
    Resources as of the first payroll in January with ADP as our new
    payroll provider

  * Leslie has begun the upgrading conference room R33 on the 3rd floor
    to make it more usable for the Technology team.

  * Brittany (a work-study student) has begun the organization of the
    Foundation library to make it more usable.

== Legal ==

  * General Counsel traveled with Sue in Europe to learn more about
    chapters and communities.
  * Investigating the suspicious deaths of thousands of turkeys in the
    United States near the end of the month
  * Engaging in a privacy review with the possibility of updating our
    privacy policy
  * Interviewing for our legal internship program for the Spring semester
  * Starting review of legal issues related to setting up in Brazil
  * Working on internal governance efficiencies with Finance
  * C&D program for trademark enforcement
  * Engagement of pro-bono counsel for maintenance of 501(c)(3) status
    and corporate governance
  * Interesting movies trademark licenses issued (e.g., Girl with the
    Dragon Tattoo, Friends with Benefits, Seven Psychopaths)
  * Strong support of fundraiser as well as work on Brazil and India
    catalysts
  * Ongoing implementation of 2011-2012 legal strategy

  * number of contracts signed - 12
  * number of trademark requests - 7

        approved - 2
        denied - 1
        approval not needed - 1
        pending - 3

== Visitors and Guests ==

 1. Susan Lyster (Egencia)
 2. Beverly Ho (Thoughtworks)
 3. Hai Ton (Thoughtworks)
 4. Tom Staut (CEO, Global Collect)
 5. Pier Iberti (Global Collect)
 6. Carl Miller (Global Collect)
 7. Patrick Dennis (Paul Hastings)
 8. Benjamin Mako Hill (Advisory Board Member)
 9. Newyorkbrad (ArbCom)
10. Coren (ArbCom)
11. Karen Rustad (author of a paper on outreach and diversity in FOSS
    communities
    <http://littlegreenriver.com/stuffs/Outreach-Diversity-FOSS.html>)

--
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Movement Communications
Wikimedia Foundation
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and the proposal was subsequently presented and discussed at the Board
Meeting in Berlin, in late March.

How did that go? Any further developments?

Best,
Andreas

--- On Sun, 20/2/11, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content -- update
> To: "phoebe ayers" <phoebe.wiki at gmail.com>, "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 22:54
> Hi Phoebe,
>
> Thank you very much for the update.
>
> Recommendations 7 and 9 are important points, and I am glad
> there is some work being done on them.
>
> Do let us know again how things are progressing!
>
> Best,
> Andreas
>
> --- On Sun, 20/2/11, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010 Wikimedia Study of
> Controversial Content -- update
> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Cc: "Andreas Kolbe" <jayen466 at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 19:35
> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:26 AM,
> > Andreas Kolbe <jayen466 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Could Phoebe, Jan-Bart or Kat please give us an
> update
> > on the activities of
> > > the working group looking into the
> recommendations
> > resulting from the 2010
> > > Wikimedia Study of Controversial Content?
> > >
> > > Have any conclusions been drawn, and are there
> any
> > plans or discussions about
> > > implementing any of the recommendations?
> > >
> > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/215066?search_string=working%20group%20controversial%20content;#215066
> > >
> > > Andreas
> >
> > Hi Andreas! Thanks for asking. Sorry for the slow
> reply,
> > I've been
> > away on holiday the last couple of days and have not
> been
> > online.
> >
> > Also, my apologies for not posting an update before
> you
> > asked. Things
> > have been slowly moving but as yet no conclusions.
> >
> > Here is what has happened since I sent my last
> update:
> >
> > Over the winter holidays the membership of the
> working
> > group changed
> > due to the workload of other board committees.
> Jan-Bart and
> > Kat
> > stepped down and were replaced by Matt, Jimmy and
> Bishakha;
> > I am still
> > involved and agreed to chair the group. Of course any
> > recommendations
> > for statements or resolutions will go to the whole
> board.
> > The Harrises
> > are still involved as consultants on a
> "paid-as-needed"
> > basis; if we
> > want them to do any further research or facilitation
> they
> > are
> > available.
> >
> > In my last message, I wrote that "The working group
> will be
> > examining
> > the recommendations more closely, soliciting Board
> member
> > feedback on
> > each of the recommendations to a greater degree than
> there
> > was time
> > for in the in-person meeting, working with the
> community
> > and finally
> > making a report to the full Board. The working group
> is
> > expected to
> > recommend next steps, including providing fuller
> analysis
> > of the
> > recommendations."
> >
> > We did the first part of this (board member feedback);
> and
> > are
> > currently working on the analysis part. As you know
> the
> > various
> > recommendations fall into three kinds: philosophical,
> > community-facing
> > (such as changing specific community practices), and
> > technical. I
> > asked the WMF tech staff to spend some time looking
> into
> > the
> > recommendations that require technical work (7 &
> 9)* so
> > that we can
> > have more information about what's feasible and
> possible,
> > and what it
> > would take on the wmf/tech side and the community
> side.
> > This does not
> > mean they're developing these features now; it means
> I
> > asked for
> > possible specifications (since I am unfamiliar with
> what it
> > would take
> > in MediaWiki to make this happen) so the working group
> can
> > make a more
> > informed recommendation. The WMF won't develop
> anything
> > without a
> > board request.
> >
> > You may notice that the "working with the community"
> part
> > has been
> > largely absent this winter. Beyond carefully reading**
> all
> > of the
> > public discussion to date, the working group has not
> > actively worked
> > with the community (at large) or specific community
> > members. This is
> > because I wanted to first focus on getting all of the
> board
> > feedback
> > and getting background information, and that has
> taken
> > longer than I
> > hoped. Of course we're not under the illusion that
> any
> > changes can be
> > made in how this organization works with
> controversial
> > content (or
> > even happily keeping the status quo) without
> community
> > discussion
> > (which there has been a lot of), consensus (which the
> > recommendations
> > were meant to help catalyze but afaik has not yet
> emerged),
> > and hard
> > work. I'd still suggest the meta talk pages along
> with
> > commons policy
> > pages as a good place to discuss the issue; and people
> can
> > still help
> > the working group by working on summarization,
> analysis,
> > and procedure
> > advice for going forward.
> >
> > I'll say that the board does not yet have a formal
> position
> > on this
> > whole issue, and so I am hesitant to say much about
> that
> > for fear of
> > it being *taken* as an official board position.
> >
> > You may read this message and think "ok, they're
> doing
> > something" or
> > you may read this message and think "the board has
> totally
> > lost the
> > way/not done their job on this issue" or you may not
> care
> > :) Either
> > way, feel free to write me or us, publicly or
> privately.
> > Our next step
> > as a working group will be a report to the board,
> likely at
> > the march
> > meeting.
> >
> > -- phoebe
> >
> >
> > * recs 7 & 9: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Wikimedia_Study_of_Controversial_Content:_Part_Two#User-Controlled_Viewing_Options
> > ** I have also been working on summarizing all this
> > discussion; a big job.
> >
>
>
> ? ? ?
>
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The advantage that Trust brings to the table is speed and intensity.  I think the nature of the Trust's operations will be to identify high-potential opportunities, design & implement high-quality pilots and transfer learnings to the Chapter, other community groups and the community at large.  As and when the Chapter and/or other community bodies have built the capacity to take over projects from the Trust, the Trust will fully facilitate this.

The advantage that the Chapter has is scale.  By nature of its large membership base, and the geographic spread of this membership base, the Chapter will probably always be best placed to ran large-scale national programs.

Having said all this, I understand your line of questioning.    This is a catalyst project and this is the first time this has been done anywhere so we need to evolve an appropriate cohabitation model.  I'd just reiterate that there is so much to do that there is enough work and more for the Chapter and the Trust and other community groups (and others too!)

hisham


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under "modified pages"
"Alternative medicine - I cleaned up this article. I removed the anti-bias and
made it pro-alternative medicine."

under "Interests"
"To get important natural health related information and definitions in an
Internet accessible encyclopedia / dictionary."

It is clear that /his/her/its purpose is to inject their POV and remove that
of others.

Best,
Sascha Noyes
--
Please encrypt all email. Public key available from
www.pantropy.net/snoyes.asc


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balance account of the state of play was sometimes difficult to achieve,
especially in subjects undergoing rapid and pure core theoretical
development. In such cases, the question was: should scientific articles
seek to express the consensus of the scientific community, however defined,
what should they include the most recent, controversial hypotheses? (Yeo
2001:270)
]]

In any case, I rather like the notion -- and problem -- articulated by
Sanger:
[[ Sanger,  The early history of Nupedia and Wikipedia: a memoir
For our purposes, a "consensus" appeared to consist of (1) widespread common
practice, (2) many vocal defenders, and (3) virtually no detractors.
(Sanger 2005ehn)
]]


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& that applies to me as much as to you to Mustafaa or Yuber -- to Wikipedia
makes more than three reversions to an article within 24 hours, that
contributor can be banned from editing Wikipedia for up to 24 hours.
The intent of this rule is to get people to talk & listen to each other
over contentious edits -- & to prevent articles from being locked from
anyone editing them.

I do think that Mustafaa should have asked another Administrator who
had not been involved in this article to have done the ban so in
tandem with this & the fact that it took so long for me to look into the
matter, I'm ending your ban. I hope you take the time to first look at
the article above about the 3-revert rule, & to talk to Mustafaa & Yuber
about this article on the Talk page before making further changes to
that article. I also suggest that you look at the articles listed at
[[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]], in the event you feel you are not getting
a fair hearing about your edits.

I am also forwarding your email to Wikipedia-EN, where you can ask for
help & receive it much quicker.

Geoff

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 02:48:11 GMT
From: Noitall <scottc0034 at yahoo.com>
To: Llywrch <llywrch at agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: Wikipedia e-mail

I am requesting both information and assistance.

I made an edit to [[Islamic Terrorism]] on Wiki.  I believe my edit was a balanced description of the term and significantly improved it.  I did not insert any POV.

However, this is apparently a highly monitored page with two Muslim editors (or more).  They teamed up to do a reactionary vandalism, reverting the page.  I believe they broke several of Wiki policies:
1.	Most important is that they have an obvious POV.
2.	Second, they rv instead of simply making one simple correction, the only correction that they disagreed with.
3.	Unlike what they stated, there has been no previous discussion of this issue.  The only previous discussion concerned their own sensitivity to the term.  The term ?Islamic Terrorism? is the term used by the West and it is the term being described.  I provided a source (and there would be tens of thousands of sources, because this is the proper term in the West.  I accurately described the dispute that some Muslims have over a term used in the West.

But the biggest problem is they somehow shut me out of the system.  I believe that I have made significant contributions to Wiki and I very greatly object to 2 people teaming up to shut me out of the system so that they can insert their POV.

These people are doing a real disservice to Wiki, and I can think of no worse vandalism than they have done:

Mustafaa and Yuber

So, I would appreciate any information and assistance you can provide to Noitall.  Thank you.

Noitall


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to the thoroughness of the database's records, though having to rely on
the deletion database for long-term information retention does make me a
bit nervous. But that's not the only consideration here.

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to http://c2.com/cgi/wiki - the WikiWikiWeb, /the/ original Wiki, aka.
"the Wiki".

Everytime you call Wikipedia "Wiki", you make numerous people want to
reach out and do nasty things like strangle you or destroy your DNS
server...

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Hi. I'm working on KLF discography. To aid with formatting, I created
two templates. The image thumbnails I am using get passed as arguments
to the templates. I've noticed that, presumably as a result of the use
of a template, the Image page doesn't know that the image is being
used in an article (see e.g. Image:The KLF- Burn The Bastards.jpg).
I'm worried that some bot will come along and say "right, they're not
being used", and list them for deletion.

If you can suggest a way round this or what might be causing it please
leave a message on my talk page (as I've asked several people).
Guy (JzG)
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG


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lesson. [[User:Daycd|David D.]] [[User talk:Daycd|(Talk)]] 17:05, 21
January 2006 (UTC)

::: What's the matter, Daycd?  Can't you just feel that "Christian"
love?  - [[User:WarriorScribe|WarriorScribe]] 19:14, 21 January 2006
(UTC)

That's it, you've pushed it too far
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/J._Otis_Ledbetter&diff=36030780&oldid=36027828
this time].  Continue violating [[WP:CIVIL|the civility guidelines]]
and you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.  --[[User:Cyde|Cyde Weys]] 04:19, 21 January 2006
(UTC)

::::: Interesting.  So you interpret Matthew 5:39 as not applying to
you, then? - [[User:WarriorScribe|WarriorScribe]] 01:05, 22 January
2006 (UTC)

Delete pity we can't delete the author. ? Dunc| ? 22:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

(last one was from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Thomas_Ice)

Secondly, the admin himself violated several of these principles in a
very serious way. As can be shown by his comments on the AfD in
question, he does not only have a serious bias that no doubt played a
role in my ban, but he also does some uncivil conduct himself:

Delete Neither diploma mills nor their presidents warrant articles.
Another non-notable from our most prolific creator of articles on
non-notables, Gastrich. FeloniousMonk 22:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete. Another non-notable from our most prolific creator of
non-notable bios, Gastrich. FeloniousMonk 22:08, 20

Your campaign here to promote your diploma mill is its most notable
aspect. Who knows, maybe they'll name a "hall" in your honor...
FeloniousMonk 22:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete Another tool off the diploma mill assemblyline. FeloniousMonk
22:42, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete Though I was impressed with the fact that "he regularly reads
academic papers at Oxford University." But since I regularly read the
Pixley Press and the ingredients on the back of cereal boxes and I
don't get an article here, why should he? FeloniousMonk 03:53, 19
January 2006 (UTC)

The admin in question is quite clearly being rude, he's throwing
around accusations, he's doing blatant lying, he is taunting and he is
being judgemental. In my opinion, he has violated more of these
criterias then I have. But because of his admin powers, not only does
he escape justice but all the users who favor his side of the argument
and violate these criterias seem to escape being banned aswell.

I feel the entire AfD dispute around the Louisiana Baptist University
articles is being handled very poorly, and it gets even worse when
admins like FeloniousMonk comes along to abuse their powers. I hope
this dispute, FeloniousMonk's status as an admin, and my ban all gets
the attention it deserves.

Yours sincerely,

Itake.

(ps. I didn't quite get the procedure for these kinds of things. There
was something about a mailing list, but I think that signing up to it
wasn't necessary? If my inquiries are going to the wrong place or so,
please tell me so I know who to send them to .ds)

On 1/23/06, Mark Ryan <ultrablue at gmail.com> wrote:
> An email was received to the WikiEN-l (English Wikipedia) mailing list
> from your email address with a subject concerning your ban. However,
> the contents of your email were garbled text. If this was a genuine,
> non-spam email message, please re-send the email in text-only format.
>
> ~Mark Ryan
> WikiEN-l mailing list administrator
>


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(UTC)

::: What's the matter, Daycd?  Can't you just feel that "Christian" love?  -
[[User:WarriorScribe|WarriorScribe]] 19:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

That's it, you've pushed it too far
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/J._Otis_Ledbetter&diff=36030780&oldid=36027828
this time].  Continue violating [[WP:CIVIL|the civility guidelines]] and you
will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.  --[[User:Cyde|Cyde Weys]] 04:19, 21
January 2006 (UTC)

::::: Interesting.  So you interpret Matthew 5:39 as not applying to you,
then? - [[User:WarriorScribe|WarriorScribe]] 01:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete pity we can't delete the author. ? Dunc| ? 22:21, 19 January 2006
(UTC)

(last one was from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Thomas_Ice)

Secondly, the admin himself violated several of these principles in a very
serious way. As can be shown by his comments on the AfD in question, he does
not only have a serious bias that no doubt played a role in my ban, but he
also does some uncivil conduct himself:

Delete Neither diploma mills nor their presidents warrant articles. Another
non-notable from our most prolific creator of articles on non-notables,
Gastrich. FeloniousMonk 22:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete. Another non-notable from our most prolific creator of non-notable
bios, Gastrich. FeloniousMonk 22:08, 20

Your campaign here to promote your diploma mill is its most notable aspect.
Who knows, maybe they'll name a "hall" in your honor... FeloniousMonk 22:33,
19 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete Another tool off the diploma mill assemblyline. FeloniousMonk 22:42,
19 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete Though I was impressed with the fact that "he regularly reads
academic papers at Oxford University." But since I regularly read the Pixley
Press and the ingredients on the back of cereal boxes and I don't get an
article here, why should he? FeloniousMonk 03:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
The admin in question is quite clearly being rude, he's throwing around
accusations, he's doing blatant lying, he is taunting and he is being
judgemental. In my opinion, he has violated more of these criterias then I
have. But because of his admin powers, not only does he escape justice but
all the users who favor his side of the argument and violate these criterias
seem to escape being banned aswell.

Further, FeloniousMonk has just banned the User "Jason Gastrich" on equally
poor basis. In the wake of this ban, and before the ban, FeloniousMonk
himself continued to violate Wikipedia rules and throw around unfounded
accusations. The admin FeloniousMonk is abusing his admin powers, both to
punish users he doesn't like and to influence AfD disputes in his favor.

I feel the entire AfD dispute around the Louisiana Baptist University
articles is being handled very poorly, and it gets even worse when admins
like FeloniousMonk comes along to abuse their powers. I hope this dispute,
FeloniousMonk's status as an admin, and my ban all gets the attention it
deserves.

Yours sincerely,

Itake.

(ps. I didn't quite get the procedure for these kinds of things. There was
something about a mailing list, but I think that signing up to it wasn't
necessary? If my inquiries are going to the wrong place or so, please tell
me so I know who to send them to .ds)


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Soda may mean:

    * A chemical compound containing sodium
          o Sodium carbonate (washing soda or soda ash)
          o Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
          o Sodium carbonate decahydrate
          o Sodium hydroxide (caustic soda)
          o Sodium oxide
    * Carbonated water (soda water)
    * Soda (comic strip)
    * Soda bread
    * Soft drink

By far the most common use of the term (and the oldest use) is "a
chemical compound containing sodium", eg. "baking soda" (sodium
bicarbonate). As I commented previously on the term "diet soda",

> You can get non-low-calorie sodium compounds?
>

The "soda" in "scotch and soda" is soda water; carbonated water with
sodium bicarbonate and other minerals in it.

The insistence of USians to call carbonated non-alcoholic flavoured
beverages "soda" is incredibly narrow minded and is one of the reasons
the US is fighting (and losing) two wars at the moment; the whole world
hates you for your self-imposed ignorance and arrogance.

--
Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax
Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia
"We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales
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Extreme Unction's first law: If enough people act independently towards
the same goal, the end result is indistinguishable from a conspiracy.

Corollary: In any sufficiently large social endeavor, there will always
be some subset of people who fail to understand this, and who will see
conspiracies and cabals around every corner whenever their views fall
into the minority.

Corollary: As the number of people who independently conclude that
someone is a disruptive jerk increases, the likelihood of that person
actually being a positive, constructive contributor who's merely run
afoul of the "ruling elite" decreases. Not that there was ever a big
chance of that to begin with.

Corollary: The people who most need to understand this law and its
corollaries never will.

--
Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax
Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia
"We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales
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having achieved sufficient external recognition and discussion that we
can verify that the subject is covered neutrally and accurately.

OK, perhaps also subjects which are so trivial that they are of no
conceivable interest to people who do not already know all about them.

Guy (JzG)
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG


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is *always* inclusion.  It used to be a sentence directly in the
policy: "When in doubt, don't delete."  I haven't bothered to check
whether that sentence has been deleted or not.

Anthony


body:
Reg readers registered their apathy, with former Wikipedian Kevin Hall
adding this note:

        Wikipedia has lost a lot of contributors like me, for various
        reasons. Not least if I write research and research something I
        expect the copyright to remain with me not Wikipedia so on those
        grounds alone I'd never write for it.

The problem with this, of course, is that he /does/ retain the copyright
to his works, as most of us know. Gee, if this were on a certain other
website, someone could correct that. Oh well.
--
Christopher Larberg [[w:en:User:Slowking Man]]
<christopherlarberg at gmail.com>
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